Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of them showing the Avengers victorious. Running out of options on their world, this variant of Strange elected to use the corrupting evil tome, the Darkhold. Add in the ability to use his shield, and the fact that he can wield Thor's hammer, and Cap is just as capable as anyone. Thanos should still win, although he'd have to try much harder. Strange has to ensure the BEST possible outcome that includes killing thanos with as little casualities. It's this method that a classic Avengers villain uses in Avengers: Mech Strike #4 - and though he has no need fortheTime Stone itself, Doctor Strange can certainly emulate his technique, however heinous it may be. This hints at the true cost of Doctor Strange subverting his plans from Infinity War and Endgame. In Infinity War, Thanos' primary goal on Titan is to get the Time Stone from Strange; bringing it out of wherever he'd hidden it to create a loop riskedexposing it to attack. The necessary team-up between Tony Stark and Scott Lang to adapt PymTech also explains why Strange was willing to save Iron Man's life despite his earlier vow not to do so. Self sacrifice is the essence of what makes a hero a hero in our culture. But either way, it's still a compelling theory that's fun to believe in, as it adds even more weight to Strange's Infinity War actions. If this is the case,many are left wondering why Strange didn't intervene. New Rumor Reveals Ben Affleck's Batman Involvement In James Gunn's DCU, Warner Bros. Unveils New Superman Movie Collection Amid DC Reboot, Robert Pattinsons The Batman 2 Gains Unsurprising Cast Member, Michael B. Jordan Shares Blunt Response to Black Superman Casting Rumors, Loki Season 2 Gets Release Date Update (Report), The Flash Movie Synopsis References Henry Cavill's Superman. He was putting all his focus into stopping Kaecilius and then reversing time. I think that if the Time stone worked in that dimension, the gaunlet would work just fine, I mean the gaunlet is powered by the stones. WebCan Thanos beat Captain America? I wasnt paying attention for that specifically the first time. Web#Thanos #DoctorStrange #InfinityWar"We're in the Endgame now." You'll catch on eventually you practically answered why Strange could use that in the dark dimension and not on earth for example. -Where is Captain Marvel? You can follow him on Twitter @samstoneshow and ask him about Nintendo, pop punk, and Star Trek. Infinity war flips this value on its head and asks if you are willing do the opposite of the heroic action in order to bring about the greater good. Joshua Isaak is a Comics Staff Writer for Screenrant and attended New York University. RELATED: How Marvel's Eternals Hid in Plain Sight for Thousands of Years. Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain thanks to giving Thanos the Time Stone and allowing him to kill countless (in the name of eventually restoring them all). The route the story goes into leaves us with thanos defeated, the worlds revived, the stones and the temptation they bring for power hungry monsters gone, and our heroes alive (most of them). It is a really dark question that I havent seen anyone really talk about. Accessing the Book of Vishanti in Earth-616's universe may have not been possible at the time ofAvengers: Infinity War, or was only an option due to the Illuminati's specific members being around in Earth-838's realm. In the prime MCU, Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos after the Mad Titan stabbed Tony Stark, only leaving the villain one Infinity Stone short of completing the set as he left Strange, Stark, Spider-Man, and four of the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan. Yes, its Thanos. KEEP READING: Eternals' Best Twist Was Making Its Superman the Secret Villain. Stopping someone like Thanos would always take sacrifice, and the ultimate cost of Endgame at least wasn't an entire reality. The turning tide will likely come from the most unlikely source and, with Scott Lang alive and well, the smallest Avenger may ultimately make the biggest impact. Strange has power over time and has used this offensively many times before, it would seem strange to me if he was only examining paths from the present one. Or maybe Thanos resurrects Gamora out of grief, and this gives the Avengers the opening they need. Brandon Zachary is a Senior Writer with Comic Book Resources and has written for CBR since 2018. In Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, Strange made it clear that there was only one way to defeat Thanos among more than 14 million options that he looked into. When Strange was looking into the future, did he see the 5 year gap or was it like a blank void to him, and then being re-awakened again when the Hulk snaps everyone back? However, the cost would have been far too great to take on. But how would he have failed? His victory in Avengers:Infinity War ultimately comes down to his sheer force of will and ability to do what the Avengers and Guardians wouldn't to achieve his goal. Doctor Strange in the MCU timeline is shown to defeat his opponents through magic and intelligent work. During the battle on Titan at the end ofInfinity War, it's assumed that Doctor Strange did everything he could to prevent Thanos from winning in the long run. With the Avengers locking Thanos in place and almost taking the Gauntlet, it could be assumed that they would've beaten him and taken all the Infinity Stones back. Strange will only reset his memory after the end of each loop. I think it's more like "TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA x1million. JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO ALREADY! But while some have laid the blame for all that chaos at the feet of certain heroes, things might have worked out for the best, given how dangerous things could have gone for the heroes. @doomstoaa: I'll ask again confirmed where? The stones would've just kept being a thing otherwise. Plus, while we have seen Thanos used the most basic form of time manipulation but simply turning the time back, he is not a socerer so there is no gurantee he could cast/undo the higher form of spells such as time-loop. While Sprite is resentful of them, Makkari points out that humans "defeated Thanos, and saved half the universe," showing that the Avengers' actions had an impact on how the Eternals viewed Earth. If you didnt know, then Doctor Strange at his absolute best had fought someone who was wielding all the Infinity Stones, and thats Adam Warlock. I never understood why he didnt open a portal on his left arm while they had him unconscious and then just close it off removing the arm and gauntlet. What if Dr Strange kept looping time with Thanos?Just keep bargaining with Thanos until he gives up like with Dormamu.That would be quite the sight. Why those possibilities didn't come up is a mystery, although it could be chalked up to Earth-616 not being in danger of an Incursion or any other kind of interactions with other universes before Spider-Man: No Way Home. Despite a brief jaunt in Mathematics at Durham University, film writing was always his calling. Rights, lets do that. Strange wasn't after stopping Thanos. Even during a recently released Eternals deleted scene, Sprite and Makkari have a conversation about the worth of the human population. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The fourth Avengers film takes its title from one of the final lines in Infinity War, as Strange reassures Stark that they've moved into the "endgame" following Thanos departing forEarth to obtain the final Infinity Stone. As seen following the iconic snap, the Gauntlet was damaged, possibly beyond repair, and having removed Etri's hands following the Gauntlet's construction, it's unlikely that a replacement can be forged. During the battle on Titan at the end of Infinity War, it's assumed that Doctor Strange did everything he could to Warning - the rest of this article contains spoilers for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Would the outcome have been any different if Strange, Iron Man and Spidey joined up with the rest of the Avengers in Wakanda during the final fight? However, as the 2016 Doctor Strange film suggested, tampering with time comes with its own costs, including the distinct possibility of Thanos being trapped in a time loop if he potentially attempted to repair the Gauntlet. That is why the story of Jesus Christ resonates so strongly with people because they believe he sacrificed himself to save everyone. He had no way of breaking out of a time loop. It's a worse version of seeing the future and then picking a path bc he's actively in combat where high pressure can mess things up. Also, with how easily Thor was able to behead Thanos in the opening of Avengers: Endgame, it seems unlikely that in all14,000,605 outcomes, none of them resulted in the Gauntlet being taken from Thanos and him being killed. You may have also seen/heard him on the Total Geekall podcast, unaffiliated YouTube channels, BBC Radio and CBC News. Doctor Strange didn't trap Thanos in a loop using the Time Stone in Avengers: Infinity War, but why? Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one In the fight Thanos would have wanted Strange to attempt to use the time stone so that he can see the stone and take it. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. All Rights Reserved. Marvel confirms Doctor Strange could have easily stopped Thanos by using a horrific time-manipulation technique. Redditor Thomascgalvin suggests that, while viewing the alternate futures, Strange came to the realization that Thanos' use of the Infinity Gauntlet's full power was a one-time only feat. A subreddit dedicated to the Marvel Cinematic Universe! Many have assumed the Sorcerer Supreme is playing a long game, one that extends beyond his death at the snapof the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet after viewing over 14 million possible futures (14,000,605, to be precise) before his fight, though it is unclear how this will ultimately unfold in Avengers: Endgame. Dormammu isn't just new to the concept of time, he doesn't understand the sorcery Strange is employing (who didn't know it was an Infinity Stone). Could MCU Thanos with 4 stones beat Dr Strange with just time stone, without WIS/PIS? Thanos had to win. It takes the power of all three stones to create the laws of physics as we know them, independently they lack the qualities of the other. @kell_saloks: I don't think Strange can use another spell while doing time-stop. Distractify is a registered trademark. Doctor Strange 2 seemed to indicate that there was another way to defeat the Mad Titan besides the way it worked out in the Infinity Saga - one that didn't require the world to go through such turmoil. the Mind Stone, the Time Stone, and the Soul Stone. Well if other people can show my view of the film is flawed I'll agree but it seemed like hes only able to continuous time loop and return from the dead in the dark dimension because there is no time there only the power of time that he brought with him. Given that number, it's likely he saw many large events that go beyond just the Snap. With that in mind, Strange was counting on Thanos using the fully-powered Gauntlet to render it useless following the snap before posthumously enacting his master plan to somehow undo its effects. Before Thanos arrives, the group begins formulating a plan to defeat him. Especially within his favourite franchises, such as Star Wars. Growing up in the English countryside on a mixture of Star Wars, The Simpsons and Aardman, Alex is a lifelong movie obsessive. I mean if everyone has a 50/50 to live or die one could argue that the one in 14 million is the exact set of circumstances that those individuals get you be exactly ever the needed to. The primary alternate reality that takes up part of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness' plot is Earth-838. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. The power and space stones can kill or bfr Strange but can't undo time loop (evidented by the Domarmu battle), the soul stone is featless (as far as I can remember). There is always a chance but by himself he would not have much of one with out doing something dramatic like when he fought the Hulk He used the po In 2016's Doctor Strange, Stephen uses the Time Stone to age an apple forward in time, watching it rot in the span of seconds. Doctor Doom is perhaps Marvels most significant villain, so unlike the Beyonder, his future in the MCU is practically guaranteed. Of course, this is just my speculation and I would be glad to hear your thought even if to be proven wrong :-). Nope, not happening. So what do you guys think? Did he? While Strangemay not have intervenedbecause he foresaw Thanos eventually using the Gauntlet either way, the fan theory suggests that he actually wanted the Snap to occur. So Strange would use the time stone > see himself get snapped away > Then what? I hardly doubt they will beat or undo his actions simply by physical force. Kaecilius summoned Dormamu through some kind of ritual, and that took some serious preparation. International political treaties are the reason why nuclear weapons are basically just expensive line items on a budget, not an actual tool of war now. Now, the iconic villain returns in a new way during Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, showing how Avengers: Endgame could have gone a different way with the Grimace look-alike. The film arrives on April 26. The Time Stone, one of the six Infinity Stones, is perhaps the easiest and most succinct method; the wielder of the Time Stone can even move objects forwards and backwards through time. None of that contradicts what the OP said though A question I always wondered is were all these possibilities as a result of them landing on Titan? Its a very stringent criteria for a victory. But a key moment in Avengers: Mech Strike #4 might as well have been written as a rebuttal to Strange's inaction in the film. WebThe Real Reason Doctor Strange Didn't Fight Thanos Himself In Avengers: Endgame - simp3s.net Reproducir Descargar 2 The Real Reason Tom Cruise's Iron Man Wasn't In Doctor Strange 2 - simp3s.net Reproducir Descargar 3 Why doctor strange didn't use time stone on thanos #shorts - simp3s.net Reproducir Descargar 4 Bureaucracy being mightier than any super weapon is a a peery funny trope, but also true IRL. The Quantum Realm has repeatedly been referred to as playing an important role in Endgame, and no surviving character knows the microscopic dimension better than Scott Lang. Even Thanos himself questions it during their fight. The biggest hole in this theory is that the Time Stone itself could be powerful enough on its own to reverse the damage to the Gauntlet or Etri's hands, as seen by Thanos using the Stone to restore Vision after his temporary destruction at the hands of Scarlet Witch. None of the other allies can die. Attempting to use his magic to find a better way might have set off an Incursion as well. After all, to truly beat him required first havinghim win. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. With the heroes of the MCU seemingly less conditioned to the bizarre limits of the multiverse, they may not have been able to counter before it destroyed their universe in the process. RELATED: Doctor Strange Is Undoubtedly the MCUs Best Babysitter. Tony Stark must do enough damage to Thanos to make him bleed and demonstrate to him that he can be defeated. Although Avengers: Infinity War debuted in theaters nearly four years ago, MCU fanatics can't help but debate over one pivotal scene involving everyone's favorite Sorcerer, Doctor Stephen Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch). 14 million is closer to zero than it is to infinity. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. To see the other way Thanos met defeat, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is in theaters now. can any of the stones help Thanos in gaining victory if Doctor Strange has already foreseen every possible moves he could make? :) This guy does fake pitch meetings for movies and has about 10 of them devoted to MarvelDoctor Strange Pitch Meeting. If even one person is standing a few feet away from where they need to be they could be killed, injured, or too slow to help out another. He brutally grabs Thanos' throat and forces him to experience his entire life asthe Conquererliterally ages the Mad Titan to death. Or maybe mind stone could take over DS mind and force him to undo/give up, but Thanos do not have time Stone here so that is out of the option. 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