But one cant be surprised by everything horrific and morally bankrupt that she does after seeing her in action like that.Were taking advantage of something that Ive talked a lot about, which is people sometimes say to themselves, Oh, I want Selina to be president. And its always like, Well, no. ", The flash-forward to the funeral gave glimpses of how everyone in Selina's orbit turned out: Jonah (Timothy Simons) was impeached! "I wanted to say a word about sacrifice," she said. The three-day weekend it falls on is called Labor Day Weekend.. Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew . !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. She adds with a laugh: "So, tough s---. Theseries finale betrayal was heartbreaking to watch. ", And Veep truly came full circle in the final seconds of the episode, as CBS Evening News anchor (!) Labor Day, in the United States and Canada, holiday (first Monday in September) honouring workers and recognizing their contributions to society. We police that and try to not have that, so that when you do get a chance to say f*** its a very special f***., Does the language make it difficult to choose clips to use at awards shows? Because its almost like the same thing with Selina, where the train was moving so fast with every bad choice and horrible action that she couldnt stop herself. "Gary and Selina cohabit a dysfunctional not-quite-romance: brutal, abusive, pathetic and unbalanced, but, at the same time, almost in spite . But if you watch when he talks about how she wouldve hated the flowers, theres an anger there. Why am I here? Its sort of the way I treat my in-laws, which is, I never say their name, because my instinct is to call them Mr. And Im certainly not gonna call them by their first name, so I just avoid calling them.. Why would she want to be separated from me? So obviously the favor was, Do you want a coffee? Because thats always been the favor. Amy (Anna Chlumsky) ended up with Ericsson (Diedrich Bader)! You mentioned that Trump was one of several reasons that you and Julia decided to wrap it up, but the show seemed energized by and turbocharged in mocking the current political climate from anti-vax to denying facts and the powers that be with the Meyer Fund and the Chinese election interference. It was just covered with a lot of dysfunction. "And there's nothing anyone can do to stop me from standing and walking for my country!" it's been getting some buzz around the web. I feel like the real road not taken for him wouldve been like a childrens dentist. He has no personal identity, so Selina becoming president is like getting the key and him becoming president. Andrew owns a large company, which is revealed to have funded both sides of the 2012 presidential election. Mandel has stated many times how grateful he is that the writers decided Selina would lose the election and not be in the White House in Season 6. Veep Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic Clash, Sheds Light on 'Labor Day' Mystery. Veep Season 7, episode 7 photo: Colleen Hayes/HBO. Has he forgiven her? Keith Quinn has become her hatchet man but she doesnt have the relationship with him that she had with Ben [Kevin Dunn]. And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. Gary is constantly getting beat up, so anytime theres an opportunity for a blowup where he can actually express himself, Im in. The big one that we were on for probably a lot of the discussion was that never-before-seen President Hughes would die on the same day, and that would sort of steal her thunder. Shes a scientist. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Please. Hed love to be a food critic. "I have this Forrest Gump-ian way of touching something and it becomes a hit!" She is everything that is bad about politics: no real vision or drive to lead via policy decisions. And that sat with me over the time of when Julia had cancer. But I so respect his decision. "I'm just gonna simply say too easy. He was ready to do whatever she asked. I think he definitely saw her in a different light and I think Selinas legacy is a trail of sadness. The train was moving way to fast Im getting deep now but the train was going so fast of every action and behavior that shes ever done that it was inevitable. Was the government shutdown in season 2 taking place during labor day? "I mean, we set this up at the beginning of the season with the faith-based initiative, and it was the perfect sacrifice for him to make and what his job wasin her mind. The most joy Gary ever had was when he would get the right lipstick; when he would get the right coat. Klicken Sie auf Einstellungen verwalten um weitere Informationen zu erhalten und Ihre Einstellungen zu verwalten. MANDEL RESPONDS: As far as Gary and Selina parting ways, We think about that. And so we planted some seeds early on, about them getting drinks. Theres that part where she asks for the favor and then she stops herself and says, Oh never mind. I asked this question, because it sounded like she was going to say it and then stopped herself. But then when he gets out and she dies, his entire identity was based in her, so her dying meant that a portion of him was also dying. What else could she do that would be even worse than breaking up with Jaffar? Season 2, episode 7. How hard was that pill to swallow? Veep: Inside the final days of TVs smartest and filthiest comedy Veep stars choose their all-time favorite scenes Watch Veep star Timothy Simons read unaired Jonah insults. She really respects him, shes worked with him [on Seinfeld]. Thats what was so beautiful about the way Dave [Mandel] wrote and directed the episode. Ill be vice president! almost reluctantly is one of my absolute favorite jokes, and I think in some weird way very true to the spirit of all seven seasons of the original show, a show about the vice presidency. What have I done? He knows all the skeletons. I think any opportunity where Selina can be dealing with a real political issue, a real piece of politics, and at the same time, we can mix in a personal issue and it doesnt necessarily mean someoned be dying, but just anything smaller and personal thats a great combination for Veep. Shes willing to get rid of Jaffar [Usman Ally], arguably the love of her life. Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally . (Laughs.) Then of course, like all bullies because she is a bully the best defense is a good offense. She could be a fierce fighter for womens rights and equality. Sydney Grullon spoke more generally: I dont think shes inherently awful, I think deep down she thinks what shes doing is good, at least what she was doing while in office. Prakram Bhushan, meanwhile, was incredibly specific: Selina is a good lover. And did you initially try to get her back for more episodes this season?I think at some point there was a thought of seeing her back in the Montez [Andrea Savage] days, season 6. His favorite experience was when the American Film Institute showed clips from the 10 series it was honoring and, alphabetically, Veep came last. To me, it wasnt always about Trump, but it was the symptoms that allowed Trump to exist, and the things that he has wrought. Before he walked out the door with his box, he would be back working with her. We started talking about a very sort of Selina Meyer-esque ending, which is that she gets bumped off the front page by a better funeral. And as we started doing this season, we werent trying to be greedy, but I wrote down this idea that wed end up back in the Oval and Sue would be there. The whole team (reluctantly) returns to work for Jonahs campaign. "He's very angry," says Hale. I will say, our character relationship and our friendship has genuinely been one of the biggest gifts of my career. Gary disposed of a body for her. She just thought that Amy wouldve liked the cut of his jib. But this is a woman at the end of the day that has sacrificed everythingeverythingto be in this office. But I guess at the end of the day, Im a cynical son of a bitch. In the beginning of the season, you told me that Gary viewed her as a forever queen. And always the president in his eyes. It was a baby challenge to figure out where Dan should be. Ni dung chnh. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: They werent happy about it, but roughly 60 percent said Gary wearing corduroy. MANDEL RESPONDS: I think that speaks to whats going on in America, to the anti-intellectualization, he says. Welcome to the Quantum Realm. Lets start by cutting to an interview with Veep showrunner and finale writer/director David Mandel, who takes you inside Selinas savage send-off. I do think Gary is a much better version of himself during that funeral, definitely. I love the idea that he solved it with three states. MANDEL RESPONDS: He was shocked his personal pick, Amy, got no votes. And by the way, on the face of Megan Murphy, [Veeps co-producer in postproduction]. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. Maybe at that moment she sticks her toe in that regret pond, but then quickly pulls it out, and moves forward with her miserable selfalone, and without anyone or anything in her life of meaning. In many other countries May Day serves a similar purpose. What do you imagine happened to him in prison? Then obviously they leave and shes there alone, and yeah, I think its full on anger, its full-on recrimination. "Never mind, forget I ever said anything. What exactly happened on Labor Day? Yet, Catherine seemed happier for it. Given Garys history with Selina that breakup, the Labor Day event, the mysterious garbage bags and so much more was this new level of depravity totally unexpected? She just sent him to jail and knowing Selina, she's not going to get him out. "That is the end result.". A cautionary tale for 2020, this season was simply darker and more brutal than ever. And its not easy for her, but its not as hard as it probably should be, either. Pam Grier reflects on her most iconic roles, from. [This story contains spoilers from the series finale of HBOs Veep, titled Veep.]. She has a new Amy [in Michelle, played by Rhea Seehorn]. If I dont go crazily in, then it invalidates the previous decision. She was all in. Selina wasnt a robot. ], This is Daddys Youve had the evil inside you the whole time, its time to embrace your dark side speech.You didnt need these shoes or me. Thats actually kind of the perfect paring, if shes the ventriloquist and Im the dummy. Gary was complicit in this hideous relationship in which he chased affection and validation that was never available. And maybe the first time weve seen Bens guard down a little bit too, just in the expression of his emotion. In the end, shes sitting at the Oval desk and shes totally alone, miserable and isolated. And I think had Sufe not been available, we would have gotten rid of that scene and gone with the other scene. Shell push it down because shes Selina, but I think in every moment of silence, that will be back in her life forever. Lets just take no prisoners. "He invested his co-dependent energy in trying to please somebody elsegetting them to like him, not valuing himself," he continues. A lot of these stories go back to when I and the new writers came into the show. Im just not sure its feasible for either of them to leave each other. And while Selina has already expressed interest in running for president again (an idea that Ben, mercifully, shot down in the Season 6 premiere), is Mandel rushing to get her back to Washington? And at one point, we even talked about in the episode where you would meet the General and he plans her funeral, the credits of that episode would be the funeral. Teleplay by Kevin Cecil, Roger Drew & Andy Riley Story by Armando Iannucci Directed by Stephanie Laing "I think it's called 'The Man Who Shits Triangles.'" -- Ben. And they have had this just crazy ping-pong back-and-forth relationship, and he has constantly screwed her over. Sometimes you have to stand back and remind everybody that were playing a horrific scene, but your characters dont quite know how horrific it is. Early in the season, you gave us a tantalizing and terrifying clue about Labor Day, one in which we learned that it was not a day but a boat, which sends the brain to awful places, along the lines of Natalie Wood or Chappaquiddick. I think then youre sort of in Bill OReilly territory. While the titular role in Selena: The Series will be taken on by . Its fun to go over memories. As for the other options: He owned a boat in the past and then had trouble getting rid of said boat, so I think he would be very happy in the boat world, although I dont think theres a lot of money in boat rental, he says. The Chung/Ryan ticket goes on to win the election, and they take office. But it was nice to see Veeps international fanbase come out to play: Im European, and Europe has a wonderful history regarding our attitude towards Jews, wrote Viktor, whos from Croatia. Check out all of THRs series finale coverage of Veep here. The second he said it, it was just like, Oh, my God. How does it feel to have Gary and Selinas relationship be the most powerful punch ofVeep? He does do more than fetch my hand lotion. He knows all the secrets. Again, not through emotional words, but just in his support. I think maybe what you were expecting is her almost being dismissive of Kent and ready to jump in. Not Julia, but Selina is like, 'I'm not going to look like s---!' Did you ever consider revealing exactly what happened on Labor Day, or is it one of those things that the answer will never be as satisfying as the speculation and your own imagination?I love that everyone has a theory. Veep Showrunner David Mandel Responds to Fans Labor Day Theories. I mean, any opportunity I can get to work with any of these folks would be awesome. And so in becoming president, Montez would have held on to her, and that there would have been a moment or two when we went back to the Montez White House, or even maybe trying to call Montez and Sue would have answered the phone, some version of that. Selinas pretty awful. But I think theres something wonderful and really wonderfully confusing about watching Selina take down Tom James, especially after these last three years, and just culminating in what he says to her in the hospital, you want to stand up and applaud. I pair that with how excited I am to be able to have had a full-circle moment in Veep, to show the beginning and an end and to walk through the whole journey and to have the whole arc of the series completed. Theres an anger there, like, Im here but f you. Even with the lipstick I think theres even still a little bit of that, and then he cant help himself. I agree [about Danny Chung] youd get very sick of hearing about a tank and stuff. It just seems like it has to be something we dont know about at all., Gary had to tell Andrew that Selina wanted a divorce, just as he had to tell Ted about their split in that same Season 1 episode. "She wasn't loving the idea of him being . I did what I was supposed to do. Louis-Dreyfus recalls that she had to bridle her own feelings to power through this poignant moment. When we see him, hes not looking so great. says the actress. Read on to see how fans answered Mandels queries, as well as his reactions to the most popular responses (including the Labor Day theories he shot down). It was not lasting remorse. Forty percent said they were a Rizzoli (Angie Harmons blue-collar detective character) and 10 percent said they were an Isles (Sasha Alexanders more polished medical examiner). 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